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MS.
DIANE REHM: Is there any doubt that the group Hamas was
behind the attack?
AMBASSADOR ITAMAR RABINOVICH: I'm afraid there is no doubt
Hamas took responsibility for this publicly in the Gaza
Strip and I think it's beyond any doubt.
MS. REHM: The intent was apparently to put pressure on Prime
Minister Rabin to halt the peace process. What do you expect
its affect to be?
AMB. RABINOVICH: We are determined that the peace process
will continue and the only real fundamental response to this
type of hostility, belligerence and bloodshed is indeed to
bring about a state of peace. But beyond this general
statement, certain practical matters will have to be taken
-- they will have to be taken on several levels. First and
foremost by the Palestinian Authority in Gaza, because the
infrastructure of these organizations is primarily in Gaza.
Secondly, with regards to Iran which as a state and a
government is radiating these ideas and extending excellent
support to Hamas and other organizations. And thirdly, on
the international level I think that this happened in Tel
Aviv, last week in Jerusalem, but a few weeks ago in Buenos
Aires and in London and therefore politically,
diplomatically, there has to be a concerted international
effort against this kind of terror.
MS. REHM: But, in addition, I gather Israeli officials are
being quoted as saying that the attack is going to be
avenged, and in the words of Israeli President Weizman the
government will take extraordinary action to find the roots
of Hamas and rip them to pieces. What action do you
anticipate might be taken?
AMB. RABINOVICH: In about an hour from now there will be a
special meeting of the Cabinet. The Prime Minister was in
London. He cut short his visit to London in light of the
tragedy, and the actual decisions on these measures will be
taken in a matter of two to three hours from now. What I
think President Weizman and others Israeli spokesmen had in
mind was that some of the targets that I've mentioned
earlier to get Yasser Arafat and the Palestinian Authority
to exert pressure on Hamas and to break their infrastructure
in the Gaza Strip or pressure on Iran and other such
measures need to be translated from general ideas in to
action.
MS. REHM: Well, I do understand about the pressure that is
being put on Mr. Arafat, but the question is, realistically,
can he stop these acts from happening?
AMB. RABINOVICH: I think that this a case in which the
answer (--) cause if Mr. Arafat in his jurisdiction in Gaza
cannot take charge of Hamas or other organizations
determined to destroy the peace process then there is no
point to this peace process. And therefore there has to be a
decision, with the bottom line, yes. We estimate that he can
do it, that up until now he was toying with the idea that
you could reign in from without coopting them. But I think
the answer is written in very red letters -- no, and
therefore he has to draw the right conclusions. We believe
that he has the political power to do it. He needs the
political will.
MS. REHM: Mr. Ambassador, What about the concern that the
cycle of violence is simply going to escalate further?
AMB. RABINOVICH: I think that this where the statement comes
in, when I said to you earlier that the only answer is the
peace process. This is the constructive answer to this. At a
moment like this, everybody is anguished and angry and
everyone attempting to work and where decisive action is
required to take place. But all of this in the framework of
continuing the peace process. Let us remember, this is meant
to disrupt the signing ceremony, the peace treaty with
Jordan, to be attended by President Clinton, as well. This
must take place because this is the right path.
MS. REHM: You do anticipate that trip by President Clinton
will continue to go forward as planned. The question is how
safe is it for President Clinton himself?
AMB. RABINOVICH: You know, we of course, that we cannot make
decisions or plans on behalf of the U.S. government. These
are decisions that will be made by them. I think that we can
guarantee the safety for the President. We are determined to
continue with the signing ceremony. I think that the
character of the ceremony will change, it will be somewhat
more somber than originally planned. But regards security we
were thinking of 110% effort before, and there will be 120%
effort for the President's security next week.
MS. REHM: Israeli Ambassador to the United States Itamar
Rabinovich, I want to thank you so much for joining us this
morning sir.
AMB. RABINOVICH: Thank you very much for having me. |