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AMBASSADOR
SHOVAL: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I have the honor
to have had the -- to have had a visit this morning from
Senator D'Amato, the Republican senator from New York, a
good friend of Israel and a good personal friend. I'm happy
to say we have discussed several items, several points of
mutual interest to both countries at the present time.
Senator D'Amato is going to speak for himself, but let me
say on behalf of the state of Israel and on behalf of myself
how deeply we appreciate the sympathy and support which
Senator D'Amato has expressed towards us in this not very
easy hour for Israel.
Let me add, also, that the government of Israel is at the
present time still considering the situation which has
developed in the wake of the unprovoked terrorist attacks by
Scud missiles on the peaceful population in Tel Aviv. As you
know, we have had another attack last night. Fortunately,
again, there were very few casualties, probably less than
ten likely injured people. There was mostly material damage.
And we don't know yet whether Tel Aviv or other civilian
centers in Israel won't be attacked again.
Anyway, we have to be aware of the danger, of the possible
danger. And in respect to that, the Israeli government is
weighing all the options, namely if to react, how to react,
when to react. And of course all options are open. It must
be very clear to everyone that the first duty of any
government, of any sovereign state, is to defend the safety
and well-being and the right to live in peace of its
citizens. How to do that, what way to do it, to embark on,
is the prerogative of the sovereign government of that
state, in that case, the state of Israel. Whatever the
decision will be, I'm sure it will be the right decision.
And one final comment. We follow the magnificent activities
of the United States armed forces and the armed forces of
America's coalition partners, putting a stop to the
aggression of Saddam Hussein. We share all the feelings of
the American public in that regard. We are just as concerned
about possible American casualties as we would be concerned
about Israeli casualties. And we certainly hope that this
war will be over with all the objectives attained and with a
minimum of losses to the Americans and their coalition
partners. We, Israel, are not part of the coalition. We are
not part of this conflict, although Saddam Hussein wants to
make us part of that conflict. And that's why he's attacking
us. But I think there can be no doubt that in our hearts and
in our minds we are with the Americans in this matter and in
other matters, as well.
Thank you very much. Senator D'Amato.
SENATOR D'AMATO: Well, Mr. Ambassador, first let me say
publicly that I know that my colleagues in the Congress are
absolutely united as it relates to our gratitude to the
state of Israel for its strength and its determination in
dealing with the situation that has been thrust upon it,
that it has every right to protect and must indeed protect
its people, that we are appreciative of the restraint that
Israel has shown. The cornerstone of Israel's defense has
been a quick and certain response to attacks, particularly
terrorist attacks at civilian targets, preemptive strikes
when the situation calls for it. And Israel has forebeared,
has not undertaken those preemptive strikes when it had
every right and every opportunity to do so, because it knew
and determined that those fixed Scud positioned missiles are
aimed and poised for an attack, an attack that did take
place.
And so let me say that while the Cabinet of Israel is
considering what appropriate steps to take, there should be
no whimpering, no wringing of hands by those who say, "Will
this fracture the coalition?" It will not fracture the
coalition, if Israel takes the appropriate steps to defend
itself and its people.
Secondly, it seems to me that the United States has an
obligation to see to it that Israel has the opportunity to
defend itself successfully from the kinds of wanton attacks
undertaken by Saddam, the terrorist. Therefore, I am
particularly pleased that the Patriot missile systems will
be employed and deployed rapidly to Israel, and at this very
time that we talk are on their way to Israel with American
crews to help ward off these mindless attacks attempted to
provoke and draw Israel into this conflict.
Thirdly, I believe that the campaign that is being waged
against Saddam Hussein has achieved unprecedented levels of
success, and that there is an objective that we should have
stated initially. And it is being undertaken militarily. A
Saddam Hussein who could keep his weapons of destruction,
who could continue to build and expand on the nuclear
capabilities, who could continue to expand on the missile
systems that could carry the lethal chemical weapons would
be a Saddam Hussein who would pose the continued instability
to that region. And so the dismantling of those offensive
weapon capabilities is an absolute necessity not only to a
victory now, but a victory that will insure the best hope
and the best opportunity for stability and peace in that
region -- a peace that Israel will and should and must be a
part of, with security for the people of the state of
Israel.
I'm pleased that we've had an opportunity to discuss a
number of these aspects, some that we may not be able to
make public, but particularly the fact that the Patriots
will be there and will give to Israel a greater ability to
defend themselves from these attacks. And obviously, we hope
that the campaign that is being waged as we speak now, the
air assaults to seek and to destroy the mobile Scuds, as
well as the fixed- base Scuds, continues. And we hope that
it continues successfully. I have every reason to believe
that sooner rather than later most of these senseless
weapons of destruction will be eliminated.
Q: Mr. Ambassador, are you satisfied with what you're
hearing about --
AMB. SHOVAL: (Off mike.)
Q: Mr. Ambassador, could you qualify, though -- could you
make clear your own statement?
AMB. SHOVAL: No questions. I'm not giving a press
conference.
Q: Okay. But may I ask you, sir, I understood you to say
that your government has not yet decided whether to respond.
AMB. SHOVAL: I'm not yet aware of the decision of my
government.
SEN. D'AMATO: Yes, sir?
Q: Senator, could you -- SEN. D'AMATO: (Off mike.)
Q: -- what the Israelis could do to respond -- (off mike).
SEN. D'AMATO: Well, I could think of a number of things, but
let me give you one. For example, we are not seeking Saddam
Hussein out. That is an option that we have foregone,
because we are looking to dismantle his offensive weapon
capabilities. And that is something that may very well lay
within the capabilities of -- of the Israelis, to attempt to
target Saddam Hussein. I think it would be very appropriate.
He's a war criminal. And I believe that, indeed, if the
Israelis had the ability to do that, this is a person who is
a terrorist, who's an international war criminal, and if not
wiped from the face of the earth during a military
confrontation, certainly should be brought to trial as the
war criminal and face the death penalty that would be
appropriate.
Q: Senator, you said that the United States has an
obligation to see that Israel had the opportunity to defend
itself. Do you anticipate that the Congress either this week
or in the coming weeks will do anything to shore up that
obligation?
SEN. D'AMATO: There are longer-range opportunities to
provide Israel with the opportunity to have a much enhanced
defensive capability as it relates to the development and
then the deployment of air defense systems, very, very
technologically advanced systems, even better with - - than
the Patriot system. And I would be hoping and I have been,
as a member of the Defense Committee, Defense Appropriations
Committee, my staff and I have been advocating this approach
now for a period of time, for a good period of time prior to
this conflict, as a matter of fact.
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